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What would you do if someone threatened your family?

by Los on Jun.03, 2009, under Faith, Personal Post, Thoughts

Ive seen this topic floating around A LOT lately, in fact, as im writting this, im listening to the new Sleeping Giant song “Sons of Thunder” about this very issue. Please go check it out!

Heres a post i found interesting by Greg Boyd:

he New Testament commands us never to “repay evil with evil” but instead to “overcome evil with good” (Rom.12:17; cf. I Thess 5:15; I Pet 3:9). Jesus said, “Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also”(Mt 5:39). He also said, “Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you” (Lk 6:27-28). The teaching seems pretty straightforward, yet this very straightforwardness presents us with a dilemma.


On the one hand, we who confess Jesus as Lord don’t want to say that Jesus and other New Testament authors are simply off their rockers in telling us not to resist evildoers, to repay evil with good, to love our enemies and to do pray for and bless people who mistreat us. If our confession of faith means anything, we have to take this teaching very seriously. On the other hand, we have to frankly admit that it’s very hard to take this teaching seriously when it comes to extreme situations like having to protect ourselves and our family from an intruder. Not only would most of us resist an evildoer in this situation, killing him if necessary, but most of us would see it as immoral if we didn’t use violence to resist such an evildoer. How can refusing to protect your family by any means be considered moral? Isn’t it more loving, and thus more ethical, to protect your family at all costs?

How do we resolve this dilemma? It helps somewhat to remember that the word Jesus uses for “resist” (antistenai) doesn’t imply passively allowing something to take place. It rather connotes resisting a forceful action with a similar forceful action. Jesus is thus forbidding responding to violent action with similar violent action. He’s teaching us not to take on the violence of the one who is acting violently toward us. He’s teaching us to respond to evil in a way that is consistent with loving them. But he’s not by any means saying do nothing.

Still, the teaching is problematic, for most of us would instinctively use, and feel justified using, violence to protect our family from an intruder if necessary.
The most common way people resolve this dilemma is by convincing ourselves that the “enemies” Jesus was referring to are not our enemies – e.g. people who attack our family (or our nation, or our standard of living, etc…. ). Jesus must have been referring to “other kinds” of enemies, less serious enemies, or something of the sort. We tell ourselves that when violence is justified – as in “just war” ethics – Jesus’ teachings do not apply. This approach allows us to feel justified, if not positively “Christian,” killing intruders and bombing people who threaten our nation — so long as we are nice to our occasionally grumpy neighbors. Unfortunately, this common-sensical interpretation makes complete nonsense of Jesus’ teaching.

The whole point of Jesus’ teaching is to tell disciples that their attitude toward “enemies” should be radically different from others. “If you do good to those who do good to you,” Jesus added, “what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same” (Lk 6:32). Everybody instinctively hates those who hate them and believes they are justified killing people who might kill them or their loved ones. In contrast to this, Jesus is saying: “Be radically different.”

This is why Jesus (and Paul) didn’t qualify the “enemies” or “evildoers” he taught us to love and not violently oppose. Jesus didn’t say, “Love your enemies until they threaten you; until it seems justified to resort to violence; or until it seems impractical to do so.” Enemies are enemies precisely because they threaten us on some level, and it always feels justified and practically expedient to resist them, if not harm them if necessary. Jesus simply said, “love your enemies” and “don’t resist evildoers” – and note, some of the people he was speaking to would before long confront “enemies” who would feed them and their families to lions for amusement.

The teaching could not be more radical and as kingdom people we have to take it seriously. At the same time, what do we do with the fact that most of us know we would not take it seriously, let alone obey it, in extreme situations like our family coming under attack?

As with all of Jesus’ teachings, it’s important to place this teaching in the broader context of Jesus’ kingdom ministry. Jesus’ teachings aren’t a set of pacifistic laws people are to merely obey, however unnatural and immoral they seem. Rather, his teachings are descriptions of what life in the domain in which God is king looks like and prescriptions for how we are to cultivate this alternative form of living. In other words, Jesus isn’t saying: “As much as you want to resist an evildoer and kill your enemy, and as unnatural and immoral as it seems, act loving toward him.” He’s rather saying: “Cultivate the kind of life where loving your enemy becomes natural for you.” He’s not merely saying, “Act different from others”; he’s saying, “Be different from others.” This is simply what it means to cultivate a life that looks like Jesus, dying on a cross for the people who crucified him.

How does this insight help address our dilemma? A person who lived with the “normal” tit-for-tat kingdom-of-the-world mindset would instinctively resort to violence to protect himself and his family. Loving his attacker and doing good to him would be the farthest thing from his mind. As with the Jerusalem that Jesus wept over, the “things that make for peace” would be “hidden from [his] “eyes.” (Lk 19:41-42). Indeed, from this kingdom-of-the-world perspective, Jesus’ teaching seems positively absurd.
But how might a person who cultivated a non-violent, kingdom-of-God mindset and lifestyle on a daily basis respond differently to an attacker? How might a person who consistently lived in Christ-like love (Eph 5:1-2) operate in this situation?

For one thing, such a person would have cultivated the kind of character and wisdom that wouldn’t automatically default to self-protective violence. Because he would genuinely love his enemy, he would have the desire to look for, and the wisdom to see, any non-violent alternative to stopping his family’s attacker if one was available. He would want to do “good” to his attacker. This wouldn’t be a matter of him trying to obey an irrational rule that said, “look for an alternative in extreme situations.” In extreme situations, no one is thinking about obeying rules! Rather, it would be in the Christ-like nature of this person to see non-violent alternatives if they were present. This person’s moment-by-moment discipleship in love would have given him a Christ-like wisdom that a person whose mind was conformed to the pattern of the tit-for-tat world would not have (Rom. 12:2). Perhaps he’d see that pleading with, startling, or distracting the attacker would be enough to save himself and his family. Perhaps he’d discern a way to allow his family to escape harm by placing himself in harm’s way.

Not only this, but this person’s day-by-day surrender to God would have cultivated a sensitivity to God’s Spirit that would enable him to discern God’s leading in the moment, something the “normal” kingdom-of-the-world person would be oblivious to. This Christ-like person might be divinely led to say something or do something that would disarm the attacker emotionally, spiritually, or even physically.

For example, I heard of a case in which a godly woman was about to be sexually assaulted. Just as she was being pinned to the ground with a knife to her throat, she out of nowhere said to her attacker, “Your mother forgives you.” She had no conscious idea where the statement came from. What she didn’t know was that her attacker’s violent aggression toward women was rooted in a heinous thing he had done as a teenager to his now deceased mother. The statement shocked the man and quickly reduced him to a sobbing little boy.

The woman seized the opportunity to make an escape and call the police who quickly apprehended the man in the park where the attack took place. He was still there, sobbing. The man later credited the woman’s inspired statement with being instrumental in his eventual decision to turn his life over to Christ. The point is that, in any given situation, God may see possibilities for non-violent solutions we cannot see and a person who has learned to “live by the Spirit” is open to being led by God in these directions (Gal. 5:16, 18).

Not only this, but a person who has cultivated a kingdom-of-God outlook on life would have developed the capacity to assess this situation from an eternal perspective. Having made Jesus her example on a moment-by-moment basis, she would know — not just as a “rule,” but as a heart felt reality — the truth that living in love is more important than life itself. Her values would not be exhaustively defined by temporal expediency. Moreover, she would have cultivated a trust in God that would free her from defining “winning” and “losing” in terms of temporal outcomes. She would have confidence in the resurrection. As such, she would be free from the “preserve my interests at all costs” mindset of the world.

Of course, it’s possible that, despite a person’s loving wisdom and openness to God, a man whose family was attacked might see no way to save himself and his family except to harm the attacker, or even to take his life. What would such a person do in this case? I think it is clear from Jesus’ teachings, life and especially his death that Jesus would choose non-violence. So, it seems to me that a person who was totally conformed to the image of Jesus Christ, who had thoroughly cultivated a kingdom mind and heart, would do the same.

At the same time, I have to frankly confess that I’m not sure this is what I’d do in this situation. Indeed, I have to honestly admit that, like most people, I don’t yet quite see how it would be moral to do what I believe Jesus would do. Yet, I have to assume that my disagreement with Jesus is due to my not having sufficiently cultivated a kingdom heart and mind. If I felt I had to harm or take the life of another to prevent what clearly seemed to be a greater evil, I could not feel righteous or even justified about it. Like Bonhoeffer who, despite his pacifism, plotted to assassinate Hitler, I could only plead for God’s mercy.

What we must never do, however, is acquiesce to our present, non-kingdom, spiritual condition by rationalizing away Jesus’ clear kingdom prescriptions. We must rather strive every moment of our life to cultivate the kind of mind and heart that increasingly sees the rightness and beauty of Jesus’ teachings and thus that would naturally respond to an extreme, threatening situation in a loving, non-violent manner.

http://www.gregboyd.org/essays/kingdom-living/what-would-you-do-if-someone-attacked-your-family/

Further Reading
Boyd, G. The Myth of a Christian Nation (Zondervan, 2007)
Brimlow, R. What About Hitler? (Brazos, 2006)
Yoder, J. What Would You Do? (Herald, rev. ed. 1992).

Heres also a video used posted last weekend…

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Question on faith…

by Los on May.21, 2009, under Faith, Personal Post, Thoughts

Ive been having a lot of conversations lately about faith, or religion. My views and opinion have changed a lot in the last few years.

I believe religion is flawed, because man is flawed. But i do believe there is a creator, and that it doesnt matter if you call him Yhwh, Jehovah, Jesus, or Allah. I believe He is compassionate, but i dont know “what” He is. Theres more but my opinions arnt important.

Ive written this post out 3 times already. And they were all too long. So i figure if someones actually going to read this, ill try keep it short.

I have a lot of questions, but ill start by just asking one, then going from there. Im constantly struggling, and honestly looking for some understanding.If not answers, but maybe even help understanding why we might never understand some of these things.

So heres the question:

“Why did Jesus pray to His Father if He was already G-d?”

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New mewithoutYou

by Los on May.18, 2009, under Faith, Vegan, live music

The new mewithoutYou album “it’s all crazy! it’s all false! it’s all a dream! it’s alright” drops tomorrow. Ive been waiting for this for so long. I really cant say any band has litterally changed my life as this one has. Men like David, after the very heart of G-d. Check out some music on www.myspace.com/mewithoutyou

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The accident of 5-5-08

by Los on May.06, 2009, under Faith, Personal Post, Thoughts

One year yesterday my niece Caliyah who was 18 months at the time were in an accident. Forced out of out lane my another motorist, we hit lane dividing cones, and lost control. Hit a curb and guard rail and rolled about 4 times according to witnesses, then landing upside down.

I had bought a new car seat for Caliyah almost one hour before the accident. Her previous one wouldnt had left her so sound. I received several punctures and lacerations from glass, and 3 broken ribs with one broken in two spots.

Surviving was nothing short of a miracle. My niece saved my life. I didnt think we were about to roll. i thought it was going to be just a quick impact into the guard rail. So i turned around to face her, to push her down, and into her carseat from her belt to prevent whiplash. Then i look past her head and out the back window, and all i see is, ground, sky, ground, sky… and the car crumbling inward like someone crushing a can. Facing her caused my arm to reach the passenger headrest. Doing so my arm covered where my throat should had been, had I been holding onto the steering wheel. Those punctures and lacerations were ment for my throat.

I thank G-d for everything I have. Everything and everyone in my life that I dont deserve. Im thankful for my girlfriend, my families and amazing friends. Thank you G-d and everyone else who helped me through this, and who made life taste better.

Ive realized life is short sometimes, and we really dont know how much and what we have till we lose it. Love, love and expect nothing in return. I dont deserve these things i have, ive cheated death and G-d rescued me from the lions den.

“Ive tasted a thimble full of fire and Im never turning back again”

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Sleeping Giant at Facedown Fest 2009

by Los on Apr.06, 2009, under Faith, Photography, live music

Sleeping Giant Facedown Fest 2009 These Sleeping Giant shows are getting better and better…

I havent been to a facedown fest since the 2nd one. Its been a while…

There was tons of energy, hearing the crowd singing over the band was almost overwhelming.

My favorite part was after the show. Prayer, and healing of the sick. A crowed gathered around Thom across the street. People were saved, and ace bandages and arm slings were skept as souvenirs from healings. This is what theyre talking about… the sleeping giant is awaking.

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Sleeping Giant 2-6-09

by Los on Feb.11, 2009, under Faith, Photography, Thoughts, live music

sleeping giant 2-6-09 Sleeping Giant yet again blowing my mind.

Theres a movement coming….

In all of my years of watching hardcore bands, ive never seen anything like these present day apostles, prophets, teachers and healers…

www.myspace.com/sleepingxgaint

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The deal! now!

by Los on Feb.08, 2009, under Faith, Personal Post, Photography, iPhone, live music

From my iPhone. More to come!!

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Awesome shows you should go to this weekend!!

by Los on Feb.05, 2009, under Faith, Personal Post, Photography, live music

sleeping giantfaith snakes

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Favorite patch/ sticker

by Los on Feb.03, 2009, under Faith, iPhone

I love this band. www.psalters.org www.myspace.com/psalters

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Sleeping Giant live

by Los on Dec.24, 2008, under Faith, Photography, live music

sleeping giant liveSleeping Giant was amazing as always. If you havent seen these guys i really suggest you see them, or actualy expierence them.

Seeing them live will be different than anything youve ever seen in a band. Chills the chills sent down your spine when you hear hundreds of kids’ voices over power the loudness of the band singing “oh priase him”. It will oddly become comforting.

Please check them out. www.myspace.com/sleepingxgiant

on another note. i dont like security at the glasshouse, it took one guy to ruin the night…..

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